Need a new way to split the bar bill?
well, don't try this progressive socialist idea
In this classic joke about how to split the bar bill, we learn how governments should NOT tax people if they want to maintain a solid society.
10 guys go for beers
Every week, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100.
And they had long agreed to pay the bill in the same way we pay our taxes. So, it went something like this…
- The first four men (the poorest) paid nothing
- The fifth paid just £1.
- The sixth paid £3.
- The seventh £7.
- The eighth £12.
- The ninth £18 and
- The tenth man (the richest) paid a whopping £59.
And they drank in the same bar every week for months feeling quite happy with the arrangement.
Then, one day the bar owner caused them a little problem.
“Since you are all such good customers,” he said,
“I’m going to reduce the cost of your weekly beer by £20.”
So, the drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.
Dealing with the windfall
Now, these guys still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, they started to work out the new ‘fair’ shares.
Initially, they thought that they’d just leave the first four men as they were – paying nothing …
… and then divide the £20 windfall evenly between the rest.
That would mean everyone else would pay £3.33 (£20/6) less than before.
But then they noticed that this would result in the fifth and sixth man being paid to drink their beer … and that didn’t seem quite right.
So, the bar owner suggested another method.
“Why not just reduce each man’s bill by a percentage amount rather than a fixed amount of money’, he said.
‘And, as you all want a ‘fair’ system, use a nice progressive benefits system to give the biggest percentage savings to the poorest”
“Bingo”, they all cried in unison, “job done …
… let’s have another round barman, you’re a genius”
The progressive benefits adjustment
So, the new bar bill payment system was agreed and now:
- The fifth man, like the first four, paid nothing. So that was a 100% saving for him – nice 😉
- The sixth man now paid £2 instead of £3 (a 33% saving)
- The seventh man now paid £5 instead of £7 (a 28% saving)
- The eighth man now paid £9 instead of £12 (a 25% saving)
- The ninth man now paid £14 instead of £18 (a 22% saving)
- And the tenth man now paid £49 instead of £59 (a 16% saving).
So, each of the last six was better off than before whilst the first four continued to drink for free.
What could be fairer than that?
The impact assessment
But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.
“I only got £1 out of the £20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got £10!”
“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a £1 too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”
“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get £10 back, when I only got £2?
The wealthy get all the breaks!”
“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison …
“we didn’t get anything at all. This new system exploits the poor!”
So, the nine men turned on the tenth and beat him up!
The next week, and hardly surprisingly, the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks.
So, the other nine sat down and had their beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered a problem …
They didn’t have enough money between them to pay the bill.
Indeed, they didn’t have enough money to pay even half of the bill!
Now funny though it might seem, this is how so-called ‘progressive’ tax systems work when you take them too far.
The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally (and rightly) get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
There are, of course, some confused people who believe that these guys would be right to complain about the 10th guy enjoying a decent fair share in the windfall.
Which is kinda dumb when you consider he was paying most of the bill.
The far leftists (and more than a few champagne socialists) might also tell you that folk on middle and higher incomes … should be ‘given’ less tax relief – on their pension savings for example.
But let’s just stop and think about that statement for one second.
If you believe that you’re ‘given’ tax relief, it implies that your income belongs to the government.
And that the government is generous to ‘give’ you some of it back in certain areas 😉
Of course, it’s exactly those tax free (or pension input) ‘allowances’ that are under attack (for middle income and higher earners) by various means.
And, with the latest thinking coming out of the labour party, your main personal income tax allowance could be taken away altogether.
Imagine that – no more tax-free allowance for you – at all! 🙁
More on that anon.
But any reasonable person can see – this is all wrong.
Your income is yours
Yes, we all need to pay our ‘fair share’ of tax (and on various things) to fund good public services.
But when a tax is not payable by anyone on certain activities (like pension saving – to encourage us to save for old age) the government should absolutely NOT then distort the system by taxing your tax-free allowance away with various complex ‘tapering’ arrangements.
It’s like beating up that guy despite that fact that he was still paying more than 60% of the beer bill – after the adjustment!
And in fact, the top 10% of earners in the UK do pay c. 60% of all income tax.
So, WTF is the point of beating them up?
UK governments have already let this issue get out of control in certain areas – as with the hideous taxes being applied to Doctor’s pensions.
And if you think that’s a joke … talk to a hospital consultant about it.
Many of our doctors are being forced to cut back on vital work and many are leaving the country altogether.
And that is undermining the whole of our NHS 🙁
Some think it’s OK to take the piss out of middle-class professional people and attack them for being wealthy too (as I’ve seen on Twitter debates recently)
That’s up to them but if we vote in a government that does any more of this – we can’t expect these ultra valuable people to show up for work (or drinks) in the future
There are plenty of places where they (and engineers and other scientists) can go to work (and drink) overseas … and where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
So let’s take care of our professionals and keep them here hey?
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If you like funny stories that teach important lessons – you might like this one on what really matters in life, too.
All the best for now
PS I’ve re-written this powerful joke from one I found many years ago – and discovered again today on the Moore Stephens Website here.
I’m not sure who the original author is but I’m very happy to give credit if someone can tell me.
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